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I experienced the same issues with the recent PenTest TTT sessions.

Good points from @Rick Butler . I'll speak from an empirical and anecdotal views. I'll preface my remarks that I have done both types of institutions referenced in this thread. For the former, there are numerous examples of for-profits who have gone 'belly-up' for poor practices and questionable...

Not to knock on @Rick Butler . Some for-profit schools have tainted the pool for others in that field. The same can be applied public and private non-profit institutions. The tuition is usually higher, but doesn't necessarily reflect a higher or better education. One example would be see the...

@Sean Ellars ,I don't disagree that they're federal employees. The questionable area is the type of employee. As in other areas, all employees don't enjoy the same level of access as others. If a 'one size fits all approach' is being applied, as you imply. The current predicamen should be...

With respect to the 'political' aspects, it's par for the course. As instructors and IT professionals, we deal with the 'political' aspects. We need to state and enforce the guardrails as it relates to training.

@Sean Ellars , i think you're making an untenable connection. If the current DOGE members were subjected to the same background checks and standards as regular government employees or contractor. Then i would agree with you're supposition. @Greg Childers makes a very salient point, this is not a...

Whom are you presenting to? If it's for an audience who has some IT experience, then you can focus on the networking-specific materials. If it's for newbies, then they will need to review a lot of material either before or after class. Is this course a bootcamp?

I can vouch for the certification programs at Rowan College at Burlington County. A great and burgeoning program.

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As with life, you take the good with the bad. The 'where's my voucher' post along with the TTT updates are the bad and the good. In my opinion, if i have to filter through some of the 'noise' to get to the goal, then it's a cost of being a member of this great group. Some will use this as their...

Looking back at the Cambridge Analytical scandal to issues with data privacy and the 'right-to-be-forgetten' statues. How can one delineate between a hostile or non-hostile party, in either a government-back, private enterprise or public endeavor? This is not to say one is worse than the other...

Legitimate cybersecurity concerns are pervasive with all social media platforms. To call out one and not the others is pandering. The entire system should be viewed as Legitimate cybersecurity concerns, rather than whom owns the platform.

I've seen that too. I've also experienced the other side in which students are unable to get jobs with just their certifications alone. There is a middle ground that is gained with a degree and certifications. Just having one or the other is not benefical in the long run. Even with the shift...

The rate of change is going at a deliberate pace. Rushing it to appease a loud minority will hurt them. The same is true for those who get higher certifications but lacks the knowledge and understanding of it's use. But hey, they wanted it faster. Reality will pump their brakes real fast.

Great point. Now how and where the talents are acquired is the question.

This will go on for a longer period than we are all anticipating. The model is somewhat outdated, but it will change. Just not at the pace we all think it 'should' change.

You brought up 2 good points about business and theoretical applications. The 2 areas that are negated when doing a certification-only route are the theoretical and business applications. It would be beneficial if certifications covered a greater aspect of those 2 areas. A degree program covers...

The long term benefits for a degree outweigh the cost. But in practice, spending a significant sum for a degree is not a good investment. Yes, certifications will help you get the role. But that is still the exception and not the rule. I would look at programs that marry certifications and...

Not in the near-term. There will still be a need for college degrees. Shifts have happened and still are. The degree model will shift to meet the market and demands. You can look at microcredentials and Prior Learning Assessments as models.

There is still benefit in getting a degree. It still carries a lot of weight when seeking new roles. For those seeking higher certifications, it can lower the barrier on entry. Yes, certain jobs are moving towards a skill-based criteria. But the benefits of having a degree are still prevelant.