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    The Wall Street Journal recently posted an article, based on research from the Burning Glass Institute, questioning the value of certs. The WSJ title was "Skill Certificates Rarely Pay Off."
    Seems they did not clearly distinguish certificates from certifications.

    This tool shows some interesting findings:

     
    The pendulum always swings.

    Every few years, we see articles like these that poo-poo on this certification or that credential. Whether it's someone in the education sector that is trying to accentuate the importance of secondary education (as a means to get more students to take out phat student loans), or the certification crowd saying, "see, you don't REALLY need a degree to do the job", while there are hordes of students who are trying to find that ever changing magic formula that's going to get them hired for big bucks into that dream job.

    Indeed and Reddit are the worst when it comes to all that.

    At the end of the day, I think the best advice I'd ever give someone coming up is to be an expert in the material - whether through a degree or cert and let that carry you into that first interview. There are no silver bullets in any of this - it's all about the right combination of credential when a job swings around.

    As to the BGI tool - well, I wonder if it has enough real data to substantiate.
     
    The Wall Street Journal recently posted an article, based on research from the Burning Glass Institute, questioning the value of certs. The WSJ title was "Skill Certificates Rarely Pay Off."
    Seems they did not clearly distinguish certificates from certifications.

    This tool shows some interesting findings:

    Another "negative Nancy" posting nonsense. I doesn't matter whether you pursue a PhD or earn 1000 certifications . This industry is about constant learning and becoming knowable .
     
    Having spent many years in the IT field myself, I can tell you that my journey was a bit unconventional. I started out with no degrees or certifications, relying instead on my passion for learning and a willingness to dive in and gain hands-on experience. I learned so much from my colleagues and through self-study, and it served me well for a long time.

    Later, when I was at a company that offered tuition assistance, I decided to go back to school. I ended up earning two associate degrees, two bachelor's degrees, and four master's degrees! The real value of all that schooling wasn't just the credentials, but how it exposed me to new topics I hadn't encountered in my work. It also really sharpened my critical thinking skills.

    Eventually, I got the opportunity to teach database and data classes at my local community college. As a teacher, I felt it was important to lead by example, so I pursued certifications in the subjects I was teaching.

    Now, I always encourage my students, most of whom are working toward their associate degrees, to get certifications in addition to their degree. This combination gives them a significant competitive advantage when they start looking for jobs. It shows potential employers that they have both a strong foundational education and specialized, practical skills.
     
    Having spent many years in the IT field myself, I can tell you that my journey was a bit unconventional. I started out with no degrees or certifications, relying instead on my passion for learning and a willingness to dive in and gain hands-on experience. I learned so much from my colleagues and through self-study, and it served me well for a long time.

    Later, when I was at a company that offered tuition assistance, I decided to go back to school. I ended up earning two associate degrees, two bachelor's degrees, and four master's degrees! The real value of all that schooling wasn't just the credentials, but how it exposed me to new topics I hadn't encountered in my work. It also really sharpened my critical thinking skills.

    Eventually, I got the opportunity to teach database and data classes at my local community college. As a teacher, I felt it was important to lead by example, so I pursued certifications in the subjects I was teaching.

    Now, I always encourage my students, most of whom are working toward their associate degrees, to get certifications in addition to their degree. This combination gives them a significant competitive advantage when they start looking for jobs. It shows potential employers that they have both a strong foundational education and specialized, practical skills.
    Perfectly worded ! Its important learn, validate your skills and keep moving forward
     
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    Now, I always encourage my students, most of whom are working toward their associate degrees, to get certifications in addition to their degree. This combination gives them a significant competitive advantage when they start looking for jobs. It shows potential employers that they have both a strong foundational education and specialized, practical skills.
    I go back to my previous statement - "there are no silver bullets". There is no *one thing* that you can do that will write you a golden ticket to the chocolate factory. No cert, no degree, not a single one is your Ticket to Ride. It's always going to be an amalgam of certificates, certifications, degrees, diplomas, and the like, coupled with the real world experience that a professional accumulates that brings a person to even having a chance at success.

    There are also those very important soft skills that can lock a person out of the field, no matter if they are a doctor with a CCIE - if they are a quintessential jerk, well, their chances at job hire or retention is going to suffer.

    I think the most important thing a person can do is network - network with other people with the same or different cert. Interestingly, I met a chap in the gym where I work out that is also a SecurityX and working on his doctorate. Sharp guy. But I never would have met him if he didn't see my CompTIA CIN water bottle that I picked up from Partner Summit '23.

    /r
     
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    The Wall Street Journal recently posted an article, based on research from the Burning Glass Institute, questioning the value of certs. The WSJ title was "Skill Certificates Rarely Pay Off."
    Seems they did not clearly distinguish certificates from certifications.

    This tool shows some interesting findings:

    I searched for several certifications and certificates and the results were all over the map.

    For example, passing the CISSP gives a bump of $1600. Taking one of the LinkedIn Learning CISSP modules gives a bump between $1200-$2600.


    Which makes me believe the tool is complete crap.