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What's in a name?

Sivanesan
My understanding last time alot of companies thought CASP+ was the same like CISSP or CISM. When Comptia changed to Security X the rebranding was showing its Comptia trademark. Previously alot of students complain employer was thinking it was cissp by isc2 or cism by isaca which made students explain what is CASP+.

Now it's easy for them SecurityX is highest Security eXpert in cybersecurity track by Comptia
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What's in a name?

Rick Butler
Gregory Childers said:
Now that CompTIA is being run as a for-profit organization, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of their current certifications to get retired.

A+/Network+/Security+ have always been the most popular, but traditionally CompTIA has done a very poor job of marketing the rest.
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I think there are some certs that have held their value. I think getting rid of CTT+ was a big mistake, but, well, not my mistake to make. I quite literally got mine done on the very last day of eligibility - mostly because I told myself for years I was going to get it.

I wonder if something is going on with Project+, it certainly doesn't have the brand penetration as PMI CAPM, although I'd see them on equal footing. Maybe CompTIA might downgrade Project to 'essentials' and let the 'plus' cert float away. Server+ has always been on the edge, mostly because folks are doing less with on-prem servers and relying on cloud SaaS (unless they have a particular slant against the cloud - ran into a school here a few months ago that 'doesn't want any of its services on the damned cloud'. I guess they were adamant.

I would agree on this, Greg. With CompTIA being for-profit now, I think we'll see every cert evaluated for its profitability.

Mitch Garvis said:
That makes sense… but the Advanced Security Professional still sounds more dignified ;)
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I would agree. And there's nothing that says you can't just say CASP+ in conversation or in a random signature block - although CASP has had to contend with CISSP for brand recognition, so perhaps that edgier name may help with that. Since we're basically finishing the first round of 'X' certs, it might be a good study to see how they are relating to the ecosphere.
Mitch Garvis said:
I confess that as I was looking for something else yesterday I came across a page with a bunch of CompTIA certs that I did not even know existed... so I am sure that you are right about that!
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If Partner Summit '22 or '23 showed me anything, it's that CompTIA is looking to try to create its own ecosphere of role based certifications, taking a page out of the Microsoft playbook. As you, particularly, are aware, MSFT shifted from technologies to roles when they said goodbye to the venerable MCSE program, for which a lot of us were proud of those credentials. But that's tech evolution for you. New and shiny for a while, then it goes into a box in the garage and we forget about it, because...something else new and shiny.

Anyway, what certs are you going for now, after being a newly minted SecurityX?

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Got me all excited and then...

Rick Butler
Gregory Childers said:
Good for you. I've only been here five years so it's good to see that you've made it to the bigtime.
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I wouldn't go *that* far. Besides, it's the magic of the Fedora.

Seriously.

Last year, I tried a couple of small social experiments. When I was at Anthology Together 24, I didn't have my hat with me. No one even gave me a notice. And despite my *trying* to meet new people, well, I guess I wasn't that memorable. But then, I was rather bored at the conference, so there was that too. I went to Vegas last month for AT25, with my Fedora - and wouldn't you know it, people would come up and talk to me - mostly predicated on the words, "hey, nice hat". I still didn't walk away with any meaningful contacts and I was still bored, but, it did something.

I tried this also at Partner Summit '24 in Atlanta. I'd circulated wearing the hat and folks would come up to me like I was some kind of rockstar. It was weird. But I guess more people knew me. So I tried something - took off the hat, circulated through the room and...it was like I was invisible. Put the hat back on and - people came up to me.

Maybe it's something like Clark Kent's glasses. Or John Watson's line from Sherlock with respect to his deerstalker, "You're Sherlock Holmes. Wear the damned hat."

And if it worked for Frosty the Snowman...

It's all in the hat.

Meanwhile, all that to say, I'm just a working class schlub that gets to hang with some good people here on CIN. And, okay, that goes for you to, Greg. ;)

Anyway, back to the salt mines. Fixing SAP reports in Anthology awaits.

/r
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Security Pro Lab 5.10.5

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I was able to complete this lab but don't understand where Telnet and SSH factor in. The lab states that only these commands should be allowed on the network but the solution doesn't require specifying Telnet or SSH, nor their ports 23 and 22. It seems that the solution allows ANY traffic into these networks.
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What's in a name?

Mitch Garvis
Curtis Whipple said:
It was my understanding that it was part of a 'rebrand' of eXpert series of certifications. That was the reasoning. DataX, CLoudNetX, SecX
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That makes sense… but the Advanced Security Professional still sounds more dignified ;)
Gregory Childers said:
Now that CompTIA is being run as a for-profit organization, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of their current certifications to get retired.

A+/Network+/Security+ have always been the most popular, but traditionally CompTIA has done a very poor job of marketing the rest.
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I confess that as I was looking for something else yesterday I came across a page with a bunch of CompTIA certs that I did not even know existed... so I am sure that you are right about that!
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Passed SecurityX CAS-005

Mitch Garvis
Gregory Childers said:
The people who are exam cramming their way to paper certs are the sane people who complain that CompTIA exams are too expensive.

Then I remind them that GIAC, ISC2, ISACA, and OffSec certifications are much more expensive.
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You are 100% right. Something that I have found of late... the training companies that have worked with me for longer periods are more than happy to let me audit the classes (if I need it) and then provide me an exam voucher. I suppose that comes with the years of work I have put into becoming the professional that I am ;)
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CIN TTT Series: Linux+ V8

MBA
Stephen Schneiter said:
It is time for the next TTT series! Join the CompTIA Instructor Network and special guest @jasoneckert as he Leads the Linux+ TTT series. Jason will cover the exam objectives and provide hands on examples as you strengthen your Linux skills. We will discuss how to cover the content with students and suggest various labs to let students gain hands-on experience as they prepare for certification.

What: CIN TTT Series: Linux+ V8
When: September 9 - October 9, 2025 (Ten sessions), 6:00 - 8:00 PM CDT
Who: Jason Eckert
Where: ON24
Register Now

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Registered.
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Passed SecurityX CAS-005

Gregory Childers
Mitch Garvis said:
While I agree that the exams should be more rigorous, let's be honest... If someone wants to study and cram for an exam then there is no need for the experience... simply to pass. I am reminded of the paper MCSEs of the late 1990s. Hopefully they at least learn something along the way. I wish I could say that the cost of the exam would be a barrier, but I've always said that an crook would happily spend $1000 to earn $10,000.
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The people who are exam cramming their way to paper certs are the sane people who complain that CompTIA exams are too expensive.

Then I remind them that GIAC, ISC2, ISACA, and OffSec certifications are much more expensive.
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New-ish to teaching IT and looking for suggestions

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Hi everyone! I am not a new teacher, but I am new to teaching IT classes. I've taught math mostly and some PLTW computer science/programming-focused courses the last several years. Our district realized that while our community has very little need for programmers, we have a tremendous need for IT workers in all sectors. Additionally, new dual credit partnerships with the local community college have come in and out with PLTW and in with CompTIA! The district actually purchased TestOut licenses, but...

This year I will have 3 levels of IT classes - the classes were determined by the District and Community College
Year1: Tech+ (and other intro to computers skills MS Office suite, HTML)
Year2: A+
Year3: Net+ (1st sem) and Linux+ (2nd sem)

I am still relatively new to the world of IT myself - I took my A+ Cert last with the students! I do have some experience and interest in the IT world, but I am more broad than deep. I plan to do the same route for certification this year with Net+ and Linux+, but I am looking for suggestions from the more experienced teachers that might be here as to how best to run the "day to day" with my students.

Do you use digital notebooks? Do you use CertMaster (or another program)? Last year I showed videos from TestOut, pausing them for discussions and connections, but students filled out guided note sheets that I created. The notes followed the videos and then forced them to scavenger hunt the "text". It was a ton of work for me, but it did work well.
What works well for you?

I also want my students to have some hands-on and authentic experiences, but I do not have much in the way of resources. My 1st year students always take apart and reassemble old computers and laptops - they don't work however. For A+, I gave my students a box of parts and had them assemble the computer as a review, but they were the same old computers my first years use. I also had my A+ students last year make patch cables and test them. I am absolutely looking for any other low-cost, easy-to-implement hands-on labs/activities.

Finally, this year I should have access to 20-ish working computers obsoleted from the district, but they have been completely erased - NO Windows OS, and I am not allowed to reconnect them to the district network. Aside from installing Linux on them (which is very likely) are there any free resources you would suggest I put on them? Ultimately, these older laptops will probably have to serve my classes for several years - and I want them secured so that I can do that, but I also need some ideas of what I can actually DO with them.

Thank you all for reading through this and for any help and suggestions you might offer!
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Course Migration

Rick Butler
mstewart said:
Hello,

I’ve created a new Canvas course for the 1200 series and would like to know if there’s a way to smoothly migrate students from my existing 1100 series course while preserving their progress in the new shell.

Has anyone successfully done this before, or is there a recommended method to handle this type of transition?

Thank you!
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I've never done anything like that, myself, but perhaps you can do a Provisioning export the data in Settings > Reports into a CSV, change the associated Course ID (and other fields as needed) and push it back using the SIS Import tool, doing the UI Override.

Maybe move one student using the UI so you can see the before and after changes that you might need to make in your CSV.

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Don't forget to consult the SIS Import documentation for info on how to form the CSVs properly.
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What's in a name?

Rick Butler
jasoneckert said:
From a Linux perspective, SecurityX sounds a bit outdated. SecurityWayland is more modern.
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You'd be proud of me, Jason - I crafted that particular response...on my old Surface 5 - running Linux Mint.

We could always go with X - but then Elon Musk might have something to say about it.
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Rick Butler
CompTIA has been adjusting the certification program for quite a while now, and, as I could tell, wanted to create classes of certifications based on bands of proficiency, from 'essentials', 'pro', and 'experts'.

And the 'X' certs do have a certain edginess to them - just ask this guy:

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I'm sure someone thought of X-Men, but that might not live up to the inclusive language standard and Disney may throw a fit.

/r
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Course Migration

M
Hello,

I’ve created a new Canvas course for the 1200 series and would like to know if there’s a way to smoothly migrate students from my existing 1100 series course while preserving their progress in the new shell.

Has anyone successfully done this before, or is there a recommended method to handle this type of transition?

Thank you!
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