Advice for people soliciting for trainers

If you want to get some responses to your solicitations for trainers, please remember to do the following:

1. Be specific in what you're looking for. Is the assignment contract work, part-time, or full-time? Do you require that the trainer be certified in the latest version, or just have an active certification that is maintained through CEUs? Do you require a degree? Does the assignment require TS/SCI clearance? Is the assignment onsite or virtual? Do you want local trainers, or will you accept distant or even overseas trainers? In which time zone will the training take place? In what language will the training be conducted?

2. Post a pay range for your budget. It saves you time and it saves the trainers time. If you have a limited budget, there may be trainers who will bid on the job. But more experienced trainers with high demand won't get tied up for an assignment that ultimately they won't accept.

3. Respond in a timely manner. If you post on this site, but take a week to respond to questions or comments, don't be surprised if you see little interest in the assignment.
Totally, agreed. So tired of these companies asking for instructors with no real description of anything. Personally, I look at these posts as no more than "fishing" exercises.
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Tech + exam

Yeah, those come up too. One of those proverbial "choose the best answer", which can sometimes depend on the situation... etc etc
No, in this case, it was not a "best answer" question. It was written as, which of these is true? I don't want to go into more detail to avoid giving too much information. But the way the question was worded, it was not about a judgment call at all. I'm very familiar with those. This one was more like, "Which of these technologies does this thing?" and two of them definitely do that thing.

Tech + exam

There was one question on mine that I am absolutely certain was wrong. It had two options that were correct (not just in my opinion, but the technology mentioned absolutely applied to both options), but only one could be selected.
Yeah, those come up too. One of those proverbial "choose the best answer", which can sometimes depend on the situation... etc etc
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Inquiring Minds Want to Know about Cyber Ranges

Greg you are absolutely correct.
Out to pasture describes me.
At age 72, after 30 years of corporate training, I am doing an adjunct role for a local junior college and loving it.
I get to grade students on their Packet Tracer Labs, easy peasy.

Inquiring Minds Want to Know about Cyber Ranges

Disclaimer, I am a grouchy old bastard.
DoD Bases are all over the place, but having taught at many there is always someone responsible that you can push to make labs work.
An airbase in Alabama had put us in a room with no service. The students had been provided with LTE dongles, but there was no signal. I had the responsible person find us a room in a building that had signal because labs/practice work.
I got fired by a training company that hired me to teach CEH, but when I sat a class taught by one of their trainers this person demoed nothing. I got to be a fly on the wall at break time and listened to students talking about how they had never even seen Linux let alone used it. CEH has almost 2000 slides in 5 days, but that is not an excuse to demo nothing. When I told the Training manager about the student comments, I didn't get invited back.
All of us trainer types have some background, some of our students have none. Although some students will be able to memorize what they need to pass the exam, others will benefit greatly from the practical experience of practice.
Teaching CCNA in St Louis our training manager had built a hands on 2 day lab, complete from VLSM to Access lists. The pass rate for CCNA increased by over 50% for students that completed the lab.
Greg, I'll bet you are like me. With 20years experience (real life, not labs) I passed the original beta Security+ with no objectives. The fact that I had several CNEs a couple MCSEs A= and Net+ and 20 years on the job made it easy even if it was a little grueling, 300 questions if I remember correctly.
I am a huge fan of experience, and always tell students to do the labs unless they already do it at work.
Sorry for the tirade.
The training program was located at this site for political and funding reasons. Typically, they would conduct this cohort in Arkansas at a base that has the correct setup and has done it for years. This particular year, it was relocated to Virginia Beach because some high-up muckety muck needed funding, and this was the easiest way for them to accomplish this. They relocated the training from its original base to a new one just for the funding dollars.

And then proceeded not to give a crap if they had the resources they needed.

I strongly agree that students learn better with hands-on experience. I assign the labs as evening homework. CompTIA has made the labs almost foolproof because they spoon-feed the students in the labs with detailed, step-by-step instructions. However, CompTIA certifications are, at their core, vendor-agnostic certifications. They're not being tested on the tools of the trade. Mostly, it's vocabulary, concepts, and procedures. I don't like it, but countless students exam cram on their own and manage to pass exams that should be well beyond their experience level.

I demo things as much as I can in the context of the lectures. I give them a tour of the CVE site, the Mitre ATT&CK framework, the CVSS calculator. I demo Wireshark, Nmap, and various other tools. I show them how to use command line in both Windows and Linux. I highly recommend that they sign up for TryHackMe and HackTheBox accounts or a free AWS or Azure account. I tell them to "be curious" and "break stuff."

Part of the reason I stopped doing actual labs during class has to do with the way CompTIA has changed the labs over the years. They used to require individual workstations to be set up with a specific lab configuration. Now, all the labs are using virtual machines, with step-by-step instructions. Students don't have to think anymore. They just follow the instructions. The labs are so easy that even people with zero experience can complete the labs without supervision. All of the training is prepackaged, with online courseware, virtual labs, and practice exams. Something easy to replicate for the masses. Eventually, they'll get rid of all of us technical trainers because they will view us as unnecessary costs. It's not about the student experience anymore. It's about maximizing revenue.
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Inquiring Minds Want to Know about Cyber Ranges

Seriously? I haven't done any labs in Security+ in almost 10 years, much less a cyber range. I tell the students the labs are there if they want to do them. They can reinforce the lecture. But they're certainly not required to pass the exams because CompTIA exams do not test for any specific tools.
Disclaimer, I am a grouchy old bastard.
DoD Bases are all over the place, but having taught at many there is always someone responsible that you can push to make labs work.
An airbase in Alabama had put us in a room with no service. The students had been provided with LTE dongles, but there was no signal. I had the responsible person find us a room in a building that had signal because labs/practice work.
I got fired by a training company that hired me to teach CEH, but when I sat a class taught by one of their trainers this person demoed nothing. I got to be a fly on the wall at break time and listened to students talking about how they had never even seen Linux let alone used it. CEH has almost 2000 slides in 5 days, but that is not an excuse to demo nothing. When I told the Training manager about the student comments, I didn't get invited back.
All of us trainer types have some background, some of our students have none. Although some students will be able to memorize what they need to pass the exam, others will benefit greatly from the practical experience of practice.
Teaching CCNA in St Louis our training manager had built a hands on 2 day lab, complete from VLSM to Access lists. The pass rate for CCNA increased by over 50% for students that completed the lab.
Greg, I'll bet you are like me. With 20years experience (real life, not labs) I passed the original beta Security+ with no objectives. The fact that I had several CNEs a couple MCSEs A= and Net+ and 20 years on the job made it easy even if it was a little grueling, 300 questions if I remember correctly.
I am a huge fan of experience, and always tell students to do the labs unless they already do it at work.
Sorry for the tirade.
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CompTIA 2024 Partner Pricing

I didn't say my partnership expired, I'm saying that my partner account on the CompTIA store no longer has its discount. I've reached out to my contact, to see what happened.

Back in February, Stephen indicated that CompTIA are working on the Partners website -> https://cin.comptia.org/threads/authorized-partner-list-is-gone.2226/ But the list of authorized partners is still missing, so I can't even tell if I'm still on there.
Okay thanks. I was wondering if say our CompTIA partnership has expired, will I be able to benefits of the discounts
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CompTIA 2024 Partner Pricing

So what about CompTIA partnership being expired? Does it renew automatically? And if expired, does it affect at store?
I didn't say my partnership expired, I'm saying that my partner account on the CompTIA store no longer has its discount. I've reached out to my contact, to see what happened.

Back in February, Stephen indicated that CompTIA are working on the Partners website -> https://cin.comptia.org/threads/authorized-partner-list-is-gone.2226/ But the list of authorized partners is still missing, so I can't even tell if I'm still on there.

CompTIA 2024 Partner Pricing

The academic partner purchase experience does not seem to be the same as in the past.

I always just used the CompTIA store, with my registered partner account.

But you appear to be correct: before and after logging into the EU Store, vouchers for Linux+ are EUR 333.

It seems that my partner discount has been stripped.

I'm reaching out to my contact, to see what's up.
So what about CompTIA partnership being expired? Does it renew automatically? And if expired, does it affect at store?
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How can i get training

BDM is a Business Development Manager, the representative in CompTIA that interfaces with partners. I haven't heard of a voucher or materials freeze, but perhaps while CompTIA restructures its business to more of a for-profit model, it has to manage costs. But then, I haven't had to request a comp of anything for quite a while. /r
Wait... are you, as partners, getting free training?

I'm feeling like that kid from that meme now...

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Inquiring Minds Want to Know about Cyber Ranges

Yes - the cost barrier is just . . . brutal!
That's exactly why one of the training providers I work with includes a month of TryHackMe Premium for every student.

It's actually a cost-saving feature for the company as they don't have to run their own infrastructure. They still make their own challenges and VMs, but the rest has been taken care of.

Besides, for them it's a $12-15 payment per student, while for the student it'll feel like a cool bonus.
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CompTIA 2024 Partner Pricing

The academic partner purchase experience does not seem to be the same as in the past.

I always just used the CompTIA store, with my registered partner account.

But you appear to be correct: before and after logging into the EU Store, vouchers for Linux+ are EUR 333.

It seems that my partner discount has been stripped.

I'm reaching out to my contact, to see what's up.

CompTIA 2024 Partner Pricing

The academic partner purchase experience does not seem to be the same as in the past.

If I wish to purchase single Tech+ voucher (new school district) for a student where do I go? Is the cost in the US $97 for partners?
My suggestion is the CompTIA Academic Marketplace for the initial purchase of a Tech+ voucher associated with a new school district.
Acedemic Store
If you are registered as a partner, the discounted price for Tech+ vouchers is typically $97 USD

Inquiring Minds Want to Know about Cyber Ranges

The topic has never come up in class, with one exception. I was teaching PenTest+ at a military base as part of program of cybersecurity training. Other trainers were teaching CySA+ and other cybersecurity courses. The program was going to end with some blue team/red team exercises.

The rooms provided for training:

Pre-WWII annex buildings with no wired connections and two-prong power outlets that were no longer to code.
Power strips using three-prong to two-prong adapters so they could plug into the power outlets.
A very flaky wifi that worked intermittently and was down for a whole day.
Long folding tables and metal folding chairs.
A dry erase board with no markers or erasers.

Needless to say, we didn't do any labs that week. We barely had internet access. But that was on the client.
Kudos to you for pushing through that setup.... I am sure that your students still gained solid knowledge, even if the hands-on experience had to be put on hold, the blue/red team exercises got a better venue-or at least some working outlets!

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