Gregory Childers said:

The best you can do it make it accessible. They have the responsibility to stay engaged. They have to meet you halfway.


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OMG...this is a constant headache I deal with. They think I'm supposed to be Jim Rohn or Les Brown the motivational speaker every class. It's partly why I focus on online instruction via video now. It's soul draining at times with some students. I actually had a few students ask why videos can't be under 5 minutes and why training has to take over 30 days (so they can go pass the exam and get their $100,000 job). I mean...you can't make this stuff up.

I personally think it would have been a ridiculous requirement. I have taught at Universities as adjunct and at Community colleges and I do not think you need a CompTIA training certification to instruct students if you have graduate or undergrad degree's, CompTIA certifications and teaching experience.

DigitalCrestInstitute2025 said:

Totally agree, I would add if it was not for the Department of Defense DoD 8140 Cyber Workforce Qualification Program requiring both IT staff (Both contractors and employees) to obtain CompTIA and even ISC certifications, the demand would be half.

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The DOD 8140 really keeps some of these crappy certifications alive. Their ridiculous requirements.

Tess Sluijter said:

I teach Linux+ two times a year, in a long extended class, but only because it's the most suitable option for my particular student demographic.

I would much rather help my students towards LFCS than Linux+. Ironically the resumé value for the two is very similar here in the EUW, but I like the LFCs exam and the Linux Foundation organisation a lot more. Some of my students self-study for Pentest+ because it's the only pentesting exam that does multiple choice, disregarding the behemoth that is SANS.

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LFCS and RHCSA has also been a golden ticket for me as well. Our team actually finally started excepting Linux+ (BUT...only version 8). We have very low respect for multiple choice only exams. Those hires tended and has proven to be the most difficult to onboard and train up over hands-on learners.

Gregory Childers said:

Demand for CompTIA certs has been limited to A+, Net+, Sec+, and Cloud+. A few people take CySA+, PenTest+, SecurityX, and Project+, but employers don't ask for those certs on job listings. The rest of their certs are low demand from students and no demand from employers. The CompCerts will be fine for people who are pursuing knowledge for knowledge's sake on their own dime, but employers aren't likely to pay for a course that doesn't yield a respected certification or add skills directly to their current job role. I think the entire new line of CompCert courses will eventually be retired for lack of demand.

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Totally agree, I would add if it was not for the Department of Defense DoD 8140 Cyber Workforce Qualification Program requiring both IT staff (Both contractors and employees) to obtain CompTIA and even ISC certifications, the demand would be half.

Great

It sounds good!

Matthew Jennings said:

@DAVID PAPKIN thanks for posting this, I completely missed it but caught it just in time thanks to you!!!

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Welcome

The best you can do it make it accessible. They have the responsibility to stay engaged. They have to meet you halfway.


As the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

Ozidi Odunze said:

I'm interested. I'm A+ Certified, and has been a Trainer with IDC

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Hey there, contact me at [email protected]. Send your resume and a phone number.

Soneka Kamuhuza said:

Seeking a PT Instructor to teach CompTIA A+ TWTh 9-1pm EST. Remote-Online delivery. 8 Weeks 1202 only. 1201 already completed students ready to take exam in a few days. Email resume to [email protected]

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I'm interested. I'm A+ Certified, and has been a Trainer with IDC

Tess Sluijter said:

That sounds like a bad ordeal, I'm sorry to hear you went through this Soneka.

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It was several days of confusion and some angst but all is well now. As a Partner, I kept wondering whether I had missed an email or something and scoured my records to find nothing. Maybe they assumed that -as techs- we would know how SSO would apply in this regard.

precious said:

Greetings from the red team @DAVID PAPKIN you can register CompTIA AI Essentials TTT Series Here

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@DAVID PAPKIN thanks for posting this, I completely missed it but caught it just in time thanks to you!!!

Shea Bennett said:

Thus my years long battle to prove to companies that multiple choice is crap and to do labs and hands-on instead. Red Hat had this right from day 1.

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The lab activities that were an essential part of TestOut are what my employers appreciated. That "hands-on" practice prepared students for the certification, but also allowed them to wrestle with simulations that were based on real-world problems. While the CertMaster Learn products have some lab content, were are opting for the CertMaster Perform products for most of the courses that prepare for a certification. Hands-On Labs > Question Banks!!

Tess Sluijter said:

Complain to your account manager, or whatever fancy word CompTIA give to that role.... "partner success manager" or whatever. CompTIA needs clear signals from their partners via the right route.

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Unfortunately ever since I lost my VERY available and reliable Account Manager from LabSim, I have had to chase CompTIA to give me the name of someone. It took a student (by accident) to help me recover. All CompTIA had to do was send a properly worded alert before creating this mess. Frankly, it isn't even as complicated. Simply choose which account you want to use, then merge any other CompTIA/Labsim accounts with logins/email into that one account and ALL your products as a School or Student, will be available. DUH!

Even in Higher Ed, we have problems with students deciding to just drop out of school and discontinue their training. I'm afraid this has been a problem for quite a while - seems students are more non-committal these days.

All you can do, I think, is focus on the students that want to be there and learn. The ones that don't...well...

deroutlooker365 said:

I now urgently need (by tomorrow) the PowerPoint materials for it. Who can help me?

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I completely understand that you are hoping to circumvent the process, but we are not allowed to. I truly hope you get access to the materials in time.

Some vendors, such as OffSec, offer lab-based exams only. No MCQs anywhere in their exams.

Shea Bennett said:

Not sure what part of the country your located, but that may have been the case 15 years ago. Their no longer the go to anymore.

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The last time I used Robert Half was in the 1990s. I had forgotten about them completely.

Stephen Schneiter said:

At last!! We are finally ready to kick off our special TTT series around the CompTIA Compcert courses. While these will not be tied to a CompTIA certification exam, as always, we will provide a certificate of attendance that you can use to show for professional development.

Our first series will be the new version of CompTIA AI Essentials and AI Prompting Essentials. This will be a five-session series designed to provide the following knowledge and skills:

• Learn what defines artificial intelligence from other types of intelligence and computing
• Practice communicating about AI effectively
• Explore AI tools and the ways they can support your organization
• Craft effective prompts for AI chatbots
• Navigate the privacy and security concerns AI technology presents
• Prepare for AI's effect on the future of technology
• Evaluate AI outputs for accuracy, bias, and quality

What: AI Essentials & AI Prompting TTT series
When: Mondays and Wednesdays, December 1-15, 2:00 - 4:00 pm CST
Who: Nick Pierce
Where: ON24
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But we all understand why......

Summary of Cost Drivers:

• Development Time: PBQs require substantial investment in the initial design and creation of a realistic task or scenario, whereas MCQs rely on a more standardized, though still time-intensive, writing process.
• Grading Efficiency: Automated grading of MCQs eliminates ongoing scoring costs. PBQs, by contrast, demand significant, ongoing personnel costs for manual scoring and quality control.
• Logistics: The infrastructure for delivering and managing PBQs in a consistent environment is more complex and costly than the relatively simple technological requirements for most computer-based MCQs.

In essence, while PBQs offer a more valid approach to measuring practical skills and application of knowledge, their superior assessment quality comes at a substantially increased financial and logistical cost.

I completely get it, maybe it is the way they are using the platform that is the issue, this was something I often found when dipping into other classes, to motivate them on the old platform (learn.Comptia.org) you could get them to RAG rate their understanding of a topic then get them to visit the confidence levels tab at the top or to reflect on their Strengths and weaknesses, once again this is found on the old platform you could get them to run the games too (though very few did in my cohorts).

On the new platform (Platform.CompTIA.org), this is a little more tricky, not only is it more difficult to see where your cohort sits in their understanding as you don't get to see it as easily as you have to go digging for it, but they can not RAG rate themselves which I find a bonkers omission as it is something we used all the time in our cohorts, trainers and curriculum leads could view their progress and advise them.

I take it you find they rather that cover the lesson content, the learners are just taking the inline tests, then wondering why they don't do well?

I, too, find it more of a challenge, but only on the new platform, not so much on the old due to the above reasons

Awesome, i will definitely jump onthis. thanks